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Sunday, June 22, 2014

A conversation with Gail Tverberg and Ugo Bardi




This video was posted on the "Doomstead Diner." Sorry that the audio is not very good when I speak. Anyway, since it has been done, here it is.

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  1. Unfortunate the "Italian Connection" was spotty that day. However, I listened twice and was able to parse most of it.

    One thought I had if you have time would be for you to type out a transcript of what you said. I'm pretty sure you will remember even the unintelligble sections.

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    1. Yeah, I would have liked to hear this conversation but the Italian side was unfortunately not comprehensible.

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  2. Like all creatures, human beings have a hierarchy of needs. The most critical needs include clean air, a temperature compatible with human survival, sufficient clean water and sufficient food. In any collapse scenario, local governments need to make sure that food distribution networks persist, that clean water is accessible and that agricultural activities are not impeded. All other needs must take a back seat. People might need to suddenly rely on food storage systems that do not require refrigeration. In colder areas people might need to simply wear highly insulating clothing since domestic heating might be lost. For the United States, the situation is particularly bleak. Most communities are highly dependent on cheap gasoline and on plentiful, cheap electricity. Transportation networks involve trains and trucks and the agricultural system depends heavily on pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers, all of which rely on fossil fuels as a basic resource. Tractors and crop dusters are also essential. There is little resiliency built into the system, and it is very alarming. Gail Tverberg in a recent article almost went so far as to suggest that a miracle is needed just for the nation to avoid complete collapse into chaos.

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    1. Yea I read that from Gail. She apparently is hoping for Intervention by God on this problem.

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